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Fantastic. We will see by next winter what the choice Europeans make will be. My guess is that it will take much more pain before rationality, forced by steps down on Maslow’s ladder, push European countries to make the tough choices they have put off. It is just as likely, probably more likely, that the EU comes apart.

Thorsten Wirth's avatar

Super exited that Chris & DOOMBERG meet again! Must listen asap!

Christoph Krafft's avatar

Thank you ALL very much - a very insightful and well structured piece … spanning the arch from the 70’s to today. Let us share it among fellow EU citizens - to switch the “intermittent light bulb” in some of their heads on again and restore full power mode 💡

MartysGlobalGrok's avatar

China is now playing its card of refining. The easy solution for Australia and others is capitulation to China which some (like Australia) have been doing for years on the down low. A labor/socialist government makes it easier/faster. Japan and Vietnam are probably less prone for various reasons.

the long warred's avatar

How fortunate we 🇺🇸 have oil and LNG. Why enough to sell abroad. How fortunate.